Problem changing controller value on same track as notes

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emptyhead41
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Problem changing controller value on same track as notes

Post by emptyhead41 »

Really sorry that this is probably a very stupid question. I'm autistic and can be a real idiot a lot of the time.

I'm just wondering what the difference is between changing a controller in the same track I'm playing the notes like this:
Trk1
C1 01 0B00 8000
.. 01 0B00 1000
.. 01 0B00 3000
D1 01 0B00 1000
etc

and changing the same controller in a separate track like this:
Trk1 Trk2
C1 01 .. 01 0B00 8000
.. .. 01 0B00 1000
.. .. 01 0B00 3000
D1 01 .. 01 0B00 1000

I'm just using an Analog generator and adjusting the Filter freq. (controller 0B)
The first way seems to adjust the filter freq as if the slider in the module is acting as a clamp for the values (eg. If i set the f.freq slider to 50% then a value of 8000 will only ever go as high as 50%), but the second way works by setting the filter freq. to absolute values (so 8000 would be 100%)

Is this normal? I can't find anything in the manual that would explain it. I hope it makes sense.

EDIT: Actually it isn't even as I described. It seems to be almost random. I can't figure out what it's doing. EG. try putting this in a track and repeating it for the full length of a default track (32 steps) and you'll see what I mean.

EDIT 2: Oh, sorry, so it seems to be if I put the controller number at the start of it it acts strangely. If I put the controller number just at the start and leave it blank afterwards it works correctly. Bug or feature?

eg. This doesn't work as expected:
Trk1
C1 01 0B00 8000
.. 01 0B00 1000
.. 01 0B00 3000
D1 01 0B00 1000
etc

This way does though:
Trk1
C1 01 0B00 8000
.. 0B00 1000
.. 0B00 3000
D1 01 0B00 1000
etc

Thanks.

EDIT 3: Ok sorry. it's something to do with local controllers and global controllers which I'm not following at the moment, but so it is a feature.
Sorry :%)
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Re: Problem changing controller value on same track as notes

Post by NightRadio »

Hi!

In the first case (track1), these are local controllers
In the second case (track2), these are global controllers

A local controller can be changed for a specific note on a specific track, regardless of other active notes in the same module.
In other words, the local controller only affects the specific polyphony channel of the module.

You can find the list of available local controllers in the module description.
emptyhead41
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Re: Problem changing controller value on same track as notes

Post by emptyhead41 »

Thanks. Yea got it now. It's actually an ingenious design. Took my a bit to get my head around, but now I understand it it's an absolutely amazing idea to control individual notes without affecting the entire module. Really impressive my friend. Donation inbound.

Incidentally, what's the best way to donate so you lose least to fees?
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